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	<title>Comments on: Things I Did Not Know About Phone Service</title>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
		<link>http://www.mapgirl.net/mfc/2007/10/04/things-i-did-not-know-about-phone-service/#comment-176836</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Micah and I stuck with cell phones since we couldn't get anything better than $20/month for landlines. We've got great receptions. Now, we considered not having cells, but that doesn't seem practical right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Micah and I stuck with cell phones since we couldn&#8217;t get anything better than $20/month for landlines. We&#8217;ve got great receptions. Now, we considered not having cells, but that doesn&#8217;t seem practical right now.</p>
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		<title>By: mapgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.mapgirl.net/mfc/2007/10/04/things-i-did-not-know-about-phone-service/#comment-176370</link>
		<dc:creator>mapgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millionster: Good to know about the metered service. I'm not sure my CLEC provides that, but I will 'beat it out of them' as you suggest. (A CLEC is a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier. Sorry to get technical, but I work in telecom.) As far as the telemarketers go, I only plug the phone in when I need to make a call.

Chief Family Officer: I believe pricing is at what the market will bear. The more Local Exchange Carriers there are, the more competitive pricing will be. I suspect that where I live, there aren't that many LECs operating. (Also technically, I get my service from the existing RBOC entity, aka Regional Bell Operating Company. The formal term now I guess is ILEC, Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier)

Clever Dude: I never, ever, EVER read your site. :-P Clearly you don't read mine either. I just posted that I don't trust VOIP service. I will never use cable as a phone provider. What's the point of Comcast to me anyway? I don't own a tv and don't need their endless marketing crap to buy more of what I don't need. I suppose I could ask them for dry loop DSL service, but I don't trust the cable company to set it up properly and it would require some new equipment. UGH. After the work week I've had, I'd rather gouge out my eyeballs than deal with hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millionster: Good to know about the metered service. I&#8217;m not sure my CLEC provides that, but I will &#8216;beat it out of them&#8217; as you suggest. (A CLEC is a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier. Sorry to get technical, but I work in telecom.) As far as the telemarketers go, I only plug the phone in when I need to make a call.</p>
<p>Chief Family Officer: I believe pricing is at what the market will bear. The more Local Exchange Carriers there are, the more competitive pricing will be. I suspect that where I live, there aren&#8217;t that many LECs operating. (Also technically, I get my service from the existing RBOC entity, aka Regional Bell Operating Company. The formal term now I guess is ILEC, Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier)</p>
<p>Clever Dude: I never, ever, EVER read your site. <img src='http://www.mapgirl.net/mfc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> Clearly you don&#8217;t read mine either. I just posted that I don&#8217;t trust VOIP service. I will never use cable as a phone provider. What&#8217;s the point of Comcast to me anyway? I don&#8217;t own a tv and don&#8217;t need their endless marketing crap to buy more of what I don&#8217;t need. I suppose I could ask them for dry loop DSL service, but I don&#8217;t trust the cable company to set it up properly and it would require some new equipment. UGH. After the work week I&#8217;ve had, I&#8217;d rather gouge out my eyeballs than deal with hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Clever Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.mapgirl.net/mfc/2007/10/04/things-i-did-not-know-about-phone-service/#comment-176316</link>
		<dc:creator>Clever Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You obviously don't read my or Nick's sites. He did a very good writeup of naked DSL (dry loop) months ago and I wrote something up a while ago too. I'll forgive you.

Some things to note:
- I get dry loop up here in MD for 26.99 per month final price. It's the 768kbps. I also have Vonage and it mostly works fine at that speed.
- If you drop your phone line and add dry loop DSL, they're going to renew your 1 year contract and charge the ETF if you cancel. I'd like to switch to cable internet for the higher speed, but I have to wait till spring.
- They'll require your CC to bill it each month.

There's other nuances, but if you just don't need the home phone, then think about it. But also consider the early termination fee, and maybe look into cable internet prices (there's always specials)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You obviously don&#8217;t read my or Nick&#8217;s sites. He did a very good writeup of naked DSL (dry loop) months ago and I wrote something up a while ago too. I&#8217;ll forgive you.</p>
<p>Some things to note:<br />
- I get dry loop up here in MD for 26.99 per month final price. It&#8217;s the 768kbps. I also have Vonage and it mostly works fine at that speed.<br />
- If you drop your phone line and add dry loop DSL, they&#8217;re going to renew your 1 year contract and charge the ETF if you cancel. I&#8217;d like to switch to cable internet for the higher speed, but I have to wait till spring.<br />
- They&#8217;ll require your CC to bill it each month.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s other nuances, but if you just don&#8217;t need the home phone, then think about it. But also consider the early termination fee, and maybe look into cable internet prices (there&#8217;s always specials)</p>
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		<title>By: Chief Family Officer</title>
		<link>http://www.mapgirl.net/mfc/2007/10/04/things-i-did-not-know-about-phone-service/#comment-176249</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief Family Officer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have any idea why DSL rates are so widely varied across the country? Or maybe you have a faster speed than we do. But we pay $20 per month with AT&#38;T (our phone service is with them also but not bundled). Seems odd to me, given that DC and LA are both high cost of living areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any idea why DSL rates are so widely varied across the country? Or maybe you have a faster speed than we do. But we pay $20 per month with AT&amp;T (our phone service is with them also but not bundled). Seems odd to me, given that DC and LA are both high cost of living areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Millionster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millionster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry just wanted to add that I had to beat the  metered service plan out of the cust svc rep -- they almost didn't want to tell me about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry just wanted to add that I had to beat the  metered service plan out of the cust svc rep &#8212; they almost didn&#8217;t want to tell me about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Millionster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millionster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where I live at AT&#38;T wouldn't let me get DSL with out their phone service.. which I never use the stupid land line -- so I got their metered service instead -- which is about $8/mo! lol. That's definitely a lot cheaper than the $35/mo they were charging me to have phone spammers harassing me at all hours of the day. Now I get harassed for less lol. Or I just turn the ringer off! hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where I live at AT&amp;T wouldn&#8217;t let me get DSL with out their phone service.. which I never use the stupid land line &#8212; so I got their metered service instead &#8212; which is about $8/mo! lol. That&#8217;s definitely a lot cheaper than the $35/mo they were charging me to have phone spammers harassing me at all hours of the day. Now I get harassed for less lol. Or I just turn the ringer off! hehe</p>
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